from the update*: "8. when a baptised minor becomes involved in serious wrongdoing, two elders (not a committee) will meet with him along with his christian parent(s) or legal guardian(s)".. "christian" is wt code for jw, i'm guessing, and it's worded this way to sound more ambiguous for the sake of the norwegian and other governments.
so what happens to a minor who doesn't have jw parents?
a young convert (not likely in this day and age, but not impossible) or a born in who was orphaned and adopted by non-jw relatives?
NotFormer
The wording clearly says that "Christian parent(s) or legal guardian(s)" can accompany the minor. I can't see any non-JW parent or guardian getting anywhere near that meeting.
There's no way they are opening up the commitee/ wrongdoing meetings to wordly people. Imagine that P.R. disaster. :)
i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
redsetter2
I am sure we were all shocked at the Governing Body Update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.
your religion (or former religion) will be a completely different religion in the next 10 years.
redsetter2
Hard to believe smoking or drugs will ever be conscience issues
Also, with such an exhaustive list, there is no mention of higher education?
if i was an active jw, i would like to greet df jw's.. how do i know that they are not apostates or continue wrong lifestyle promotors?.
i would need this information, so were to get?
the grapevine?
The message from the GB is clear: sleep around, steal, smoke, take drugs, be a total prick of a human being - thats fine, you could be re-instated in 90 days.
But criticise the GB about anything.......
burning heretics alive was a common practice in medieval europe.
i cannot begin to imagine the depravity of the mind that invented this cruelty, let alone the inhumanity and callousness of those who carried out the act.
sometimes an individual would take pity on the victim and hide gunpowder among the wood faggots to hasten their death.. there is only one way to make this scenario even more depraved, infinitely depraved in fact; and that would require magic powers.
Their rabbinical commentaries are full of diversity of thought.
Is that another way of saying confusion?
All religions are made up- including Judaism.
is the change in jw dress policy a way to make the changes in df policy easier to accept?.
a way to devide?.
g..
Announcing all the changes at once was just a way to slip through the changes to disfellowshipping practises involving minors.
The rank and file dubs will be so dizzy with excitement they won't focus on the most important policy change.
you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
This has probably been mentioned but this is all about whats happening in Norway.
Russia has already mocked Norway and basically said "we told you so" in regard to banning JW's. The GB is obviously concerned other countries will take notice of Norway and look more closely at the practises of JW's.
we still have quite a few elderly here that came in as young families in the late 1960's-early 70's because soon, yes very soon they would enter the new system and never grow old.
it's now one year away from 50 years since 1975. just in the last couple years i've seen them come down with alzheimer's, cancer, brain tumors, becoming invalid etc.
the children of them that are now around 60 are just so distraught at seeing their parents deteriorate.
A couple of generations of kids who are now grandparents. It was never supposed to happen like that.
All those talents, dreams and potential un-nurtured and wasted. So many boomers- sucked in by 1975, still loyally going to meetings, not wanting to believe their own reality and the lives they took from their children.
Life is short.
'use vegetable oil and soft margarine in place of animal fat,'.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101997444?q=vegetable+oil&p=par.
'when possible, cook with unsaturated vegetable oils.'.
Are Vegetable Oils not more important than Beards?
No - but Beard Oil is now more important that than vegetables.
for decades, critics have pointed out the unfairness of god slaughtering billions in a future armageddon who never even met a jw much less heard their life-saving message.
(remember the contortions around the collective responsibility of nations?
) also, why do babies and children have to die simply because their parents rejected the witnesses?
I seem to remember the wt saying that if every person who has ever lived were resurrected and we all lived on earth together, we would have about an acre (4000m2) each.
It depends which input you use but I did a quick bit of research. (For what its worth)
Estimated total humans who have ever lived: Over 100 billion
Total usable land ( no mountains or desert): 15 billion acres.
Total land each: 0.15 acres, or about 600m2.
If this model is right, would that even be enough land to grow food for each person?
We would still have to live in cities. I dont think that is the dream the WT is selling.
in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.
i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.
i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.
Again, on line 8:
The sun still stood there is a reference that the moon was spotted after sunrise. This observation would have taken place in the morning. But in -567 the moon is not luminated at sunrise. Therefore, there is no way they could determine that morning to be first crescent. But in -511 the crescent is illuminated in the observation at moon rise after sunrise. That is why later in the day as it drifts even further away from the sun that it becomes THICK during the evening observation
The new moon- or 'first crescent'- if thats what you mean- always happens AFTER sunset - not in the morning. It is visible in the western sky just after sunset. It sets quickly and is never visible in the early morning.
